Two day ago Stephen suggested (in the comment section) that relative is the wrong word to describe God. He said that I am relative to God, rather than the other way around.
I am not sure that relative is the best word to describe what you are describ[ing]. After all, God isn’t relative to you, you are relative to God. Meaning, of course, that God is exactly who He says he is, and likely much much more, but you experience and interact with him in a way that is relative from your point of view. After all, if there are universals in the world, we can only know them relatively.
At first I didn’t like what Stephen wrote. But when I sat down and thought about it I began to agree with his assessment. I realized my thinking revolved around myself. Stephen said it best, “God isn’t relative to you.” If this were so then I would be the more important entity.
It seems logical, then, that God would be the absolute. Not me, not a book or a prototype. Therefore, when God makes a decision he doesn’t base it on anything except for himself. When God tells the leaves to fall, they fall and it is right. This isn’t because it’s written in a book or because humans expect leaves to fall around the same time of year, but because God said it should happen.
It also seems logical that when God walks into a situation he knows all the factors. He doesn’t have to wonder if anybody has lied to him. Couple this with the fact that he is the absolute (as argued in previous paragraph), and we can conclude that any decision God passes is right. Even if it causes pain in our lives (think Job), it is the way things should happen. Even if God destroys someone we think should receive grace, or gives grace to someone we think should be destroyed, his decision is correct. We are the relative.
This creates a big problem, a problem which builds a barrier between God and me.
I’ve never walked into a situation and been able to discern all the facts. I never will. In any situation, something is happing behind the scenes I am unaware of. Because of this, I am unable to comprehend the fact that God experiences every situation exactly the opposite. I can think about it in the same way I can think about how a computer works. I can know that when I press the keys some sort of signal travels through various circuits to produce the letters on the screen.
But I can’t comprehend the exact logistics of how this happens. The same with God. I can think about how he walks into situations with perfect knowledge, but I can’t comprehend what the experience is like.
Because God and I don’t share this experience, I feel like we don’t share this particular relational connection. While he perfectly understand me, I don’t understand him at all.
Moreover, this leads to only one solution: God must tell me the correct decision to make in every situation since he is the absolute. And thus, I leave off today with two quandaries:
- Can humans still audibly hear God? The bible tells stories of this happening, but I’m not convinced I can achieve this. My question, essentially, is this: without having read any of God’s teachings before, can I walk into a situation, ask him for his guidance, hear him talk to me and make a decision, fully convinced I have followed his lead?
- If I were to overcome the first problem, could I even have the faith and courage it takes to follow the command of a God I can’t comprehend (for I’d have to follow the directive without truly understanding why it is the right thing to do)?
Two day ago [LINK] Stephen suggested that relative is the wrong word to describe God. He said that I am relative to God, rather than the other way around.
“I am not sure that relative is the best word to describe what you are describ[ing]. After all, God isn’t relative to you, you are relative to God. Meaning, of course, that God is exactly who He says he is, and likely much much more, but you experience and interact with him in a way that is relative from your point of view. After all, if there are universals in the world, we can only know them relatively.”
At first I didn’t like what Stephen wrote. But when I sat down and thought about it I began to agree with his assessment. I realized my thinking revolved around myself. Stephen said it best, “God isn’t relative to you.” If this were so then I would be the more important entity.
It seems logical, then, that God would be the absolute. Not me, not a book or a prototype. Therefore, when God makes a decision he doesn’t base it on anything except for himself. When God tells the leaves to fall, they fall and it is right. This isn’t because it’s written in a book or because humans expect leaves to fall around the same time of year, but because God said it should happen.
It also seems logical that when God walks into a situation he knows all the factors. He doesn’t have to wonder if anybody has lied to him. Couple this with the fact that he is the absolute (as argued in previous paragraph), and we can conclude that any decision God passes is right. Even if it causes pain in our lives (think Job), it is the way things should happen. Even if God destroys someone we think should receive grace, or gives grace to someone we think should be destroyed, his decision is correct. We are the relative.
This creates a big problem, a problem which builds a barrier between God and me.
I’ve never walked into a situation and been able to discern all the facts. I never will. In any situation, something is happing behind the scenes I am unaware of. Because of this, I am unable to comprehend the fact that God experiences every situation exactly the opposite. I can think about it in the same way I can think about how a computer works. I can know that when I press the keys some sort of signal travels through various circuits to produce the letters on the screen. But I can’t comprehend the exact logistics of how this happens. The same with God. I can think about how he walks into situations with perfect knowledge, but I can’t comprehend what the experience is like.
Because God and I don’t share this experience, I feel like we don’t share this particular relational connection. While he perfectly understand me, I don’t understand him at all.
Moreover, this leads to only one solution: God must tell me the correct decision to make in every situation since he is the absolute. And thus, I leave off today with two quandaries:
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Can humans still audibly hear God? The bible tells stories of this happening, but I’m not convinced I can achieve this. My question, essentially, is this: without having read any of God’s teachings before, can I walk into a situation, ask him for his guidance, hear him talk to me and make a decision, fully convinced I have followed his lead?
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If I were to overcome the first problem, could I even have the faith and courage it takes to follow the command of a God I can’t comprehend (for I’d have to follow the directive without truly understanding why it is the right thing to do)?